NSW Roll Bar Engineering Cert? For Classic Rego

Mr Morlock · Postby **Mr Morlock** » Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:59 pm

absolutely agree- in Vic the person responsible for accepting or denying addition of a vehicle under a Clubs name usually is there for a bit of assistance and with what is required but that can fall well short of being an expert on the intricacies of modifications. By all means ask the Club guy handling Classic cars for that club to see if basic requirements are in place and the Club is prepared to accept. Nearly all clubs have their own requirements for Club Permit cars e.g. attendance, or waiting period etc.

bruce · Postby **bruce** » Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:06 pm

In Vic, Club person just rubber stamps the Application and RWC. Does not get involved with anything else which I suspect is the same as NSW.
Thus Blue Slip is the answer.

RS2000 · Postby **RS2000** » Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:01 am

Yes, I'd say a lot or most club registrars in NSW just rubber stamp without looking at the car, even though the clubs should only authorise Historic rego to un-modified vehicles. My club have stated that they are not getting involved in the Classic car rego scheme.

bruce · Postby **bruce** » Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:58 pm

RS2000 wrote: even though the clubs should only authorise Historic rego to un-modified vehicles. My club have stated that they are not getting involved in the Classic car rego scheme.

My heavily modified Engineered car got a RWC, thus no problems getting H (actually M) rego in Vic (no diff between either plates). As long as it passes RWC it is fine.

I can understand why Clubs don't get involved with the scheme as it's a lot of work for them. Plus it could be abused causing potential problems for the Club.

People tend to overthink things, which gets exacerbated by posting on a forum and us nitwits add our 2 cents!

Mr Morlock · Postby **Mr Morlock** » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:35 pm

Difference between H and M in Vic is that M signifies modified. However many H plate cars are modified because the M plate did not get released until well after the scheme was introduced. Bruce is right- if a Club actually wants to do the job well it does become a lot of work and many guys are just in the Clubs to take advantage of the scheme and not really contribute much to the Club that supports their car( s) . However I think nearly all clubs in Vic who are into Classic cars are in the scheme- it's in the interests of the Club members and if your marque club does not support the scheme then people to a club that does. There are about 120000 cars on the scheme in Vic and growing.

CeramicND · Postby **CeramicND** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:47 pm

Conditional rego requires a blue slip. Some mechanics may issue a blue slip with a roll bar, some may not, it's pot luck on that one.
Just like the luck required if you ever get pulled over by the Highway Patrol.

My NA is on Conditional rego and I got it engineered for a race seat (pretty easy with an ADR complied Velo GPT1), Automotive+ Tallboy, Coilovers and a Cold Air Intake.

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RS2000 · Postby **RS2000** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:36 pm

CeramicND wrote:Conditional rego requires a blue slip

I think you'll find in NSW, that Classic Conditional requires a blue slip, but Historic Conditional doesn't if the car already has full rego.
That's because Classic is for modified cars, & Historic is for original/un-modified ones (except for safety items such as seat belts, indicators etc).
I think clubs might start to look more closely at Historic cars, as there are a lot out there that don't comply with that.

CeramicND · Postby **CeramicND** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:57 pm

RS2000 wrote:
CeramicND wrote:Conditional rego requires a blue slip

I think you'll find in NSW, that Classic Conditional requires a blue slip, but Historic Conditional doesn't if the car already has full rego.
That's because Classic is for modified cars, & Historic is for original/un-modified ones (except for safety items such as seat belts, indicators etc).
I think clubs might start to look more closely at Historic cars, as there are a lot out there that don't comply with that.

Yes, I meant Classic (conditional) as opposed to Historic. I'm actually one of the MX5 Club stamps. So far done 3 classics and 1 historic. Still learning the ropes!

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Garido · Postby **Garido** » Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:16 pm

I can only speak from experience but I had someone who specialised in Mobility engineering, do some engineering work as they were still listed under the RMS for me. I found from going to various engineers while there was a set of guidelines, it's the engineers discretion on what and how they want to approach the mods.

If anything, I found trying to get everything done at once also more beneficial (in terms of cost and time).