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Alex's white NA8 build.

Postby Alex 2550 » Wed May 11, 2016 3:14 pm

Hey Everyone,
I hope you are all doing well.
I thought I would start a garage thread to use as a bit of a diary of the build for my own enjoyment but hopefully ill eventually get some useful stuff in here for every one benefit. sorry this is a long post but they will get shorter i promise.
As most of you know I bought an NA8 a couple weeks ago photos can be seen here from the previous owner before i purchased it http://imgur.com/a/kjm4a and http://imgur.com/a/A6ofi .
so as a backgroud on me and why an MX-5 and the lead up to it.....
In the past I have owned some very quick cars (plus 300kw at the wheels mostly with rotaries) and though they have been fun they come with the problems that big power brings. such as fuel consumption, breakages and really cars like that cant be used on the street to their full potential so the amount of time you enjoy them is limited and i guess it all comes back to "its funner to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow". the last year of ownership on my 318kw WRX was 13km.
Quite a few years ago I had a drive of a mate Pete aka Black_penguins MX and at the time I thought it was great fun because you could rev it fairly hard and even at the speed limit it was fun. I also had a friend with a 1971 Marcos gt which is a British sports car and the retro styled NA MX's reminds me of the interior in that so its a little nastalgic for me.
Well the wrx went and left a hole that needed to be filled. I needed a car I could work on to take my mind off life and enjoy when I had the time ect but with a Mazda 3 already and a highly modified GU 4.2TD Patrol, campertrailer, a Mortgage, renovations (plus my place is a hobby farm) and the missus three horses money and time needed to be spent wisely.
So i had a check list of what i wanted and the list went basically like this:

* Japanese built aka reliable so more time driving than fixing.
* lightweight.
* cheap to run and own, insurance parts ect.
* the missus could drive and it wouldn't "bite" her or breakdown on her.
* enjoyable all round driving experience not just fun and there is a difference.
* non-turbo.

So the hunt began and all the options I looked at kept bringing me back too MX-5 so that was it, I needed an MX. so i called Pete, went for another run (in a much more modified than before) car and that was it, i was certain it was for me. I had my heart set on the NB8B for the reliability of a newer car and the bride to be's comfort.
But fell in love with the retro NA's as like i said it reminded me of my mate and his Marcos so the missus said one night "buy the NA, you will enjoy it more and it wont ever be our daily driver" woo hoo thats a green light :D .
So because i had never been in an NA i needed to find one and see if I fit as im six foot and was deep in the 100kg club (now 13kg lighter :) and under 100kg).
I have been a member on here 12 months (today actually :shock: , i just checked) so I contacted Manga_blue as he lived close and it was teed up, not only was he happy to talk to me about the MX but took me for a spin in his and even let me have a drive, i cant thank him enough for how friendly and helpful he was.

So now hoping to find an NA8 but probably going to get an NA6. i started looking in seriousness and the one on here came up. I figured for what i wanted as a project it was perfect and an NA8 as a bonus.

So arrangements were made and i went and got it at a great price.

Basic rundown of the car is its an 11 month 95 NA8 in chaste white with a Black demister type hardtop.
the car has been mechanically well maintained by mx5 mania (Ajay said it was solid) with reciepts of everything from 11 years of ownership but the body is a bit rough (more on that later), the only non standard parts are:
* whiteline sway bars front and rear.
* adjustable swaybar links.
* kYB non adjustable shocks.
* K&N panel filter.
* nb8a wheels with re002 195/50/15
* pioneer Cd player with Alpine type S speakers.
* momo competition steering wheel.

So basically a standard mx5 (i did get all factory parts including 14s, steering wheel, radio ect with the car).

Because the car was filthy from not being washed or detailed for a long time (cant blame the previous owner was just a run around for him) the first job was to spend some time and a heap of elbow grease and give it a full detail this also gives me a chance at a very close look at the entire car. so starting with 303 in one hand and cloth in the other i started on the interior and spent nearly 4 hours on it and couldn't believe how good it came up... wining :D .
The center console that looks brown in the photos and the shift boot are actually black again and i suspect that one owner may have been a smoker as it seemed like tobacco haze was over most things plus 21 years of grime.

next on to the body.

I started by touching up stone chips and flaking paint, clay baring the whole car then used Meguires ultimate restoration polish followed by 2 coats of wax on the hard top and auto glyme extra gloss protection on the rest. its basically a hard protective wax and it came up looking so much better and went from cream to white. soft top hit with 303.

on to the engine bay, i started stripping off brackets washers ect to clean everywhere under the bonnet and polishing all painted surfaces, air con lines and 303 on plastic and rubber components. this was a massive job and still haven't finished due to other commitments at the moment but even took the guard bolts out to polish around them so its getting there and hope to have it done by the weekend and looking almost like it did when it left Japan 21 years ago.


So let the resto/mods begin!!!.

the first thing I wanted to address was the damage, maintenance items and some weight reduction. I had it on the scales with half a tank of fuel, torneau for soft top in the boot and hardtop fitted, the result 1040kg closest to nearest 10kg the operator said the way it fluctuated it was probably closer to 1035kg but ill use 1040KG as the reference. ill try get a base dyno run done as well in a couple weeks for a reference point.

So i have started reducing the weight by taking things out I dont really need, i have owned fully stripped cars before and i definately dont want that with this so the reduction is minor and i could take more i know. I have removed 1 tow hook front and back, engine lift points, jack and winder, tool kit, spare wheel and replaced with emergency can inflator and NRMA card, charcoal canister and brackets (yes i know what this means but has never been an issue before on my cars and i kept all parts if needed plus lines are joined so no fumes in engine bay), owners manual, cd player remote and face case.
All these items add up to just over 17kg of weight saved and thats after adding bolts to fill holes in the boot and the can of inflator so the car now weighs in around 1020kg or about 1.7% lighter which means the butt dyno will feel........ no difference but lots of little gains do eventually add up. :lol: And it is a free modification that improves all areas of the car and will offset some of the roll bar weight when its fitted. spare will go back in on long touring trips.

I have also put in some new genuine taillights, gaskets and polished in there and removed all the grime. But the best part..... i have dríven it just over 1000km in a couple weeks and loving it.

I will shortly be replacing all hoses both vac and water, full service front to back and looks like the cas o'ring is starting to weep so ill jump on that.
I'm still chasing a boot lid, rear bumper and probably a front bumper. Once i have these its off to the panel beaters for paint including the bad bits i touched up like the passenger guard and ill fit an mx5 plus tall boy diagonal bar and from there some retro goodness and more performance.
I'll get some pics up shortly of the car now for all to see as its very different to how it was.

sorry again its a long post but i look forward to catching up with some of you face to face in the not to distant future.

Alex :D :beer:

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Re: Alex's white NA8 build.

Postby smy0003 » Wed May 11, 2016 3:49 pm

Nice, mine is also a very late 95 in chaste white.
Do you have the service books? Mine refer to the colour as polar white, as opposed to chaste white which it is commonly referred to on the American boards. I'm trying to figure out what Mazda Aus actually called it.
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Re: Alex's white NA8 build.

Postby Alex 2550 » Wed May 11, 2016 4:49 pm

yer i have the service books ill check mine at home for you smy0003 and ill whack it on here so everyone knows the outcome, I had an email from Mazda about the car because the revs check listed it as a limited edition and i wanted to know more (as i expected its not a limited edition) but is listed by mazda as a hardtop problem is i thought that year had the tops colour coded not black and didn't have the demister. the demister wiring and switch are all there but was fitted by mania. anyway I thought it would say on the email the colour but i just checked and it just says white. :roll:

I know duplicolour and the other brand which I have at home both call the code chaste white.
I wonder if chaste white was Mazdas generic white colour at the time but so the 121 and the premium mx5/rx7 didn't appear to share the same paint they called it polar in the sales brochure and service manual to give the illusion of a premium paint? this is of course just speculation. PT was the paint code for my car from memory.
i love the front end on yours in your profile pic :)

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Re: Alex's white NA8 build.

Postby speed » Wed May 11, 2016 6:40 pm

Looking forward to your updates.
Now don't hold back on pics :D
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Re: Alex's white NA8 build.

Postby Alex 2550 » Wed May 11, 2016 8:33 pm

I won't mate notice the turbo is on yours now, hope the other projects are going well :D

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Re: Alex's white NA8 build.

Postby Alex 2550 » Wed May 11, 2016 8:58 pm

Also my book calls code PT polar white, duplicolour and color spec call it chaste white. So I'm not sure what Mazda oz called it. :frown:

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Re: Alex's white NA8 build.

Postby smy0003 » Wed May 11, 2016 10:29 pm

Thanks Alex, very interesting. Will have to ask a few more NA8 owners.
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Re: Alex's white NA8 build.

Postby Nevyn72 » Wed May 11, 2016 10:44 pm

Have a look at the compliance plate and/or build plate and see what the colour code is listed as.

Check back with Dr Google for your answer.
When getting some paint mixed up, make sure you use the colour code rather than a generic description like 'chaste or polar'. :wink:
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Re: Alex's white NA8 build.

Postby Alex 2550 » Wed May 11, 2016 11:36 pm

Yer I had PT that's on my plate mixed and it said chaste white. I wanted duplicolour but they had to mix it in color spec and judging by spelling it's American both said chaste. If someone has the Australian sales brochure that would sought it.

My car had a home made alloy plate from the radiator support to the bumper to help direct air through the radiator complete with Gaffa tape edging.
It was looking pretty sad so tonight I took it off removed the gaffa, made it fit a little better and gave it a quick hand polish. It has plenty of reflection now but not like chrome I didn't want full mirror so I'm happy with how it turned out.

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Re: Alex's white NA8 build.

Postby Alex 2550 » Thu May 12, 2016 12:14 am

Yer I had PT that's on my plate mixed and it said chaste white. I wanted duplicolour but they had to mix it in color spec and judging by spelling it's American both said chaste. If someone has the Australian sales brochure that would sought it.

My car had a home made alloy plate from the radiator support to the bumper to help direct air through the radiator complete with Gaffa tape edging.
It was looking pretty sad so tonight I took it off removed the gaffa, made it fit a little better and gave it a quick hand polish. It has plenty of reflection now but not like chrome I didn't want full mirror so I'm happy with how it turned out. :) I have ordered a few bits for the car lately and some more will be ordered next week so free improvements at the moment are great, got a wedding this year so spending on cars is down. Lol

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Re: Alex's white NA8 build.

Postby Nevyn72 » Thu May 12, 2016 10:03 am

Alex 2550 wrote:......got a wedding this year so spending on cars is down. Lol

It shouldn't be!..... You've got the get the girl ready for the ceremonies & reception. :wink:

A white MX5 dressed up in all the wedding finery couldn't be a better option for the occasion. :mrgreen:
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Re: Alex's white NA8 build.

Postby manga_blue » Thu May 12, 2016 12:11 pm

Just let me know if you need a second white NA8 for that. :wink: I suspect It'll never be as clean as yours though.
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Re: Alex's white NA8 build.

Postby 93_Clubman » Thu May 12, 2016 12:58 pm

My Mazda Aust Warranty Information (& Maintenance Record) booklet refers to colour as Chaste White, & vehicle plate has PT on it for paint.

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Re: RE: Re: Alex's white NA8 build.

Postby speed » Thu May 12, 2016 6:11 pm

Alex 2550 wrote:I won't mate notice the turbo is on yours now, hope the other projects are going well :D

Thanks. Still have 3 cars to move on and will out source the electrical gremlin in the mother in laws. 4 less cars on the property will be amazing but will surely take time.
The turbo is simply sitting there at the moment so I can sort out intercooler and exhaust piping before I pull the engine for a rebuild. Am bummed I can't clock it but that's another story.

A mx5 wedding would be super cool but may not be very practical for the bridal party.
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Re: Alex's white NA8 build.

Postby Alex 2550 » Fri May 13, 2016 10:46 am

i'm loving the ideas guys :D and thanks for the offer phil, might have to talk to the other half about this. (i'll try catch up soon, weekends have been spent doing rock walls and fences lately)

Good to hear your still busy Steve, must be hard work trying to juggle work and be Sydneys VW specialist lol sucks you cant clock the turbo.
ill try get more pictures up soon guys but work and stuff at home has made it hard this week.
hope everyone has a good weekend.


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