Lakeside Sprints - Full Day 23 Nov 18
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Lakeside Sprints - Full Day 23 Nov 18
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Re: Lakeside Sprints - Full Day 23 Nov 18
I’m up for this one
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Re: Lakeside Sprints - Full Day 23 Nov 18
Yep, me too.
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Re: Lakeside Sprints - Full Day 23 Nov 18
Toss up, day off work or Morgan Park on Saturday....
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Re: Lakeside Sprints - Full Day 23 Nov 18
Time Attack Round 5 at Lakeside on the 24th of Nov, so won't make this one either
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Re: Lakeside Sprints - Full Day 23 Nov 18
SKYHI wrote:Time Attack Round 5 at Lakeside on the 24th of Nov, so won't make this one either
Might come down and watch that
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Re: Lakeside Sprints - Full Day 23 Nov 18
Custardtart wrote:SKYHI wrote:Time Attack Round 5 at Lakeside on the 24th of Nov, so won't make this one either
Might come down and watch that
Usually do the afternoon sessions, but will be doing the morning session at this round.
Drop in and say hi if you make it out.
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Re: Lakeside Sprints - Full Day 23 Nov 18
I'm guessing this event is unlikely to take place given what's happening with Lakeside at the moment
Anyone heard anything definite?
Anyone heard anything definite?
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Re: Lakeside Sprints - Full Day 23 Nov 18
It's only race meetings that are under threat and that is from next year. There are no changes to sprint events.
So yes, it will still be on.
So yes, it will still be on.
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Re: Lakeside Sprints - Full Day 23 Nov 18
JBT wrote:It's only race meetings that are under threat and that is from next year. There are no changes to sprint events.
So yes, it will still be on.
Ah, that's different to what I had heard, which was a suspension of "racing activities" which included sprints.
Hopefully you're correct and at least sprints are still running.
I might give them a call to confirm.
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Re: Lakeside Sprints - Full Day 23 Nov 18
The FB announcement by John Tetley stated:
Also this from the BMW Car Club, co-sponsors of the club sprints on 23 Nov 18:
Let’s get one thing straight - we are not closing Lakeside down; we have had to implement a suspension of racing activities at Lakeside Park until the bureaucrats....
Also this from the BMW Car Club, co-sponsors of the club sprints on 23 Nov 18:
I am sure many of you have by now heard of the temporary cessation of racing at Lakeside next year. We have been assured this will not effect club level sprints, so it will be business as usual for our sprint days. The best way you can show your support for Lakeside and its full continuation, is by event participation. It is now just over four weeks till our last track day for the year, before the summer break. We urge you more than ever, to come out to Lakeside, have some fun, and show your support. Don't delay and get your entries in now to make sure you don't miss out, as we have a capped number of attendees to ensure maximum track time.
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Re: Lakeside Sprints - Full Day 23 Nov 18
Yeah, what I heard last Friday was: 'stop all sanctioned racing events - club days & sprints etc will still run but under strict noise guide lines'.
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Re: Lakeside Sprints - Full Day 23 Nov 18
Since resurrection of motorsport at the circuit, there has been a noise limit i.e. Leq15 70dB(A). Maybe there will be more enforcement of the rule at sprint events.
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Re: Lakeside Sprints - Full Day 23 Nov 18
Transcript of John Tetley's Facebook Post.
What has happened with Racing at Lakeside?
Firstly, thank you to all the people who have rung me and expressed both concern and support for the continuation of racing activities at Lakeside. Over the past 19 years, it has been this level of personal support which has kept me fighting for my grass roots customers who just want to enjoy their motorsport for what it is. I also wish a pox on all those that have caused this situation to arise because of their incessant, selfish, whingeing.
Let’s get one thing straight - we are not closing Lakeside down; we have had to implement a suspension of racing activities at Lakeside Park until the
bureaucrats and Moreton Bay Regional Council (MBRC) provide the protection that a community asset like Lakeside deserves - both morally and legally.
Thousands of people have spent hundreds of dollars modifying their cars to meet a sound limit that is lower than it should be. As a “Sports Ground” Lakeside would be permitted a sound level of Leq15 of 75dB(A) BUT as an “Outdoor
Entertainment Venue” Lakeside is only permitted an Leq15 of 70dB(A). I have been informed that Lakeside has breached the 70dB(A) on six occasions so far this year and might have breached the 75dB(A) on four occasions in the last 10
years.
If Ernest Hemingway was right, and he was, when he said:
“There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games.” Why can’t Lakeside be recognised as a sporting ground? Especially given the demonstrated huge public support for all motorsport venues in Queensland to be recognised as sporting grounds.
How was that demonstrated?
You may recall that John Goss put a petition in front of Parliament with more
than 18,000 signatures requesting that the state government recognise
motorsport venues as “Sports Grounds”. Despite this huge number of signatures this petition was put aside by Jeff Seeney in the then Campbell Newman government. It has not made it onto the agenda of the current government,
although there is significant support for it from some of the members.
We have had discussions with the MBRC to get this recognition for at least seven years and had general consensus that Lakeside is entitled to be recognised as a sports ground - but it never actually happens. Make no mistake about it, what we are talking about here is a stroke of the pen by the appropriate bureaucrat. So why hasn’t it happened? The real answer to that question may never come to light but it would appear that the MBRC is under pressure from the Ombudsman to “enforce to the fullest extent of the law” as a result of pressure from the two continual vexatious complainers.
So, what changed and brought this to a head?
QR has received fines totalling $29,100 (three fines of $9700 each) since August and that is the game changer. We have declared our intention to fight these fines in court and have engaged lawyers and acoustic engineers to assemble the case against the current breaches and mount the case; that if we were to be judged under the correct zoning these infringement notices would not have been issued.
Our hope is that this will bring things to a head sooner rather than later so that we can commit to conduct race meetings because, either MBRC withdraws the infringements pending resolution of the sports grounds issue, or we get to court early enough to get clarity on where Lakeside will stand in the future.
As most of you already know from our fight with the Ipswich City Council, even without the support of CAMS, we will not give up and go quietly; albeit not above Leq:75dB(A) anyway. Nor do we wish to put our prices up just to be able to pass that money through to the payment of fines to the MBRC. Fair is fair; we have no desire or moral grounds to ask our customers to make yet more sacrifices to appease two selfish people in our community.
We must give the politicians and bureaucrats the support they need to say
“enough is enough”.
As mentioned above, thousands of you have spent money trying to appease people who refuse to recognise the value of your contribution to their goodwill. This has to end somewhere and it is up to the relevant authorities to recognise your rights; and the fact that you are willing to stand up for them too. If you want to see a resumption of racing activities at Lakeside you need to make your point, politely but firmly to:
Division 7 Cr, Denise Sims: Denise.Sims@moretonbay.qld.gov.au
Ch of Plan’g, MBRC, Mick Gillam Mick.Gillam@moretonbay.qld.gov.au
Dep Mayor, Mike Charlton: Mike.Charlton@moretonbay.qld.gov.au
Mayor, Allan Sutherland: Mayor@moretonbay.qld.gov.au
Shane King, MLA Kurwongbah@parliament.qld.gov.au
Mark Ryan, Min. Police Morayfield@parliament.qld.gov.au
Stephen Miles, Min. for Health Murrumba@parliament.qld.gov.au
We inherited Lakeside from our grandparents; let’s make sure our grandchildren
do too.
Sincerely,
John Tetley
CEO ~ Queensland Raceways
What has happened with Racing at Lakeside?
Firstly, thank you to all the people who have rung me and expressed both concern and support for the continuation of racing activities at Lakeside. Over the past 19 years, it has been this level of personal support which has kept me fighting for my grass roots customers who just want to enjoy their motorsport for what it is. I also wish a pox on all those that have caused this situation to arise because of their incessant, selfish, whingeing.
Let’s get one thing straight - we are not closing Lakeside down; we have had to implement a suspension of racing activities at Lakeside Park until the
bureaucrats and Moreton Bay Regional Council (MBRC) provide the protection that a community asset like Lakeside deserves - both morally and legally.
Thousands of people have spent hundreds of dollars modifying their cars to meet a sound limit that is lower than it should be. As a “Sports Ground” Lakeside would be permitted a sound level of Leq15 of 75dB(A) BUT as an “Outdoor
Entertainment Venue” Lakeside is only permitted an Leq15 of 70dB(A). I have been informed that Lakeside has breached the 70dB(A) on six occasions so far this year and might have breached the 75dB(A) on four occasions in the last 10
years.
If Ernest Hemingway was right, and he was, when he said:
“There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games.” Why can’t Lakeside be recognised as a sporting ground? Especially given the demonstrated huge public support for all motorsport venues in Queensland to be recognised as sporting grounds.
How was that demonstrated?
You may recall that John Goss put a petition in front of Parliament with more
than 18,000 signatures requesting that the state government recognise
motorsport venues as “Sports Grounds”. Despite this huge number of signatures this petition was put aside by Jeff Seeney in the then Campbell Newman government. It has not made it onto the agenda of the current government,
although there is significant support for it from some of the members.
We have had discussions with the MBRC to get this recognition for at least seven years and had general consensus that Lakeside is entitled to be recognised as a sports ground - but it never actually happens. Make no mistake about it, what we are talking about here is a stroke of the pen by the appropriate bureaucrat. So why hasn’t it happened? The real answer to that question may never come to light but it would appear that the MBRC is under pressure from the Ombudsman to “enforce to the fullest extent of the law” as a result of pressure from the two continual vexatious complainers.
So, what changed and brought this to a head?
QR has received fines totalling $29,100 (three fines of $9700 each) since August and that is the game changer. We have declared our intention to fight these fines in court and have engaged lawyers and acoustic engineers to assemble the case against the current breaches and mount the case; that if we were to be judged under the correct zoning these infringement notices would not have been issued.
Our hope is that this will bring things to a head sooner rather than later so that we can commit to conduct race meetings because, either MBRC withdraws the infringements pending resolution of the sports grounds issue, or we get to court early enough to get clarity on where Lakeside will stand in the future.
As most of you already know from our fight with the Ipswich City Council, even without the support of CAMS, we will not give up and go quietly; albeit not above Leq:75dB(A) anyway. Nor do we wish to put our prices up just to be able to pass that money through to the payment of fines to the MBRC. Fair is fair; we have no desire or moral grounds to ask our customers to make yet more sacrifices to appease two selfish people in our community.
We must give the politicians and bureaucrats the support they need to say
“enough is enough”.
As mentioned above, thousands of you have spent money trying to appease people who refuse to recognise the value of your contribution to their goodwill. This has to end somewhere and it is up to the relevant authorities to recognise your rights; and the fact that you are willing to stand up for them too. If you want to see a resumption of racing activities at Lakeside you need to make your point, politely but firmly to:
Division 7 Cr, Denise Sims: Denise.Sims@moretonbay.qld.gov.au
Ch of Plan’g, MBRC, Mick Gillam Mick.Gillam@moretonbay.qld.gov.au
Dep Mayor, Mike Charlton: Mike.Charlton@moretonbay.qld.gov.au
Mayor, Allan Sutherland: Mayor@moretonbay.qld.gov.au
Shane King, MLA Kurwongbah@parliament.qld.gov.au
Mark Ryan, Min. Police Morayfield@parliament.qld.gov.au
Stephen Miles, Min. for Health Murrumba@parliament.qld.gov.au
We inherited Lakeside from our grandparents; let’s make sure our grandchildren
do too.
Sincerely,
John Tetley
CEO ~ Queensland Raceways
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I’ve just registered. Should have coilovers fitted for it so will be interesting to see how much difference they make.
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