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Re: FAQ: Clubman
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:48 pm
by 93_Clubman
Australian MX5 sales according to Brian Long's book:
1989: 621 (NA6);
1990: 1446 (NA6);
1991: 746 (NA6);
1992: 502 (NA6);
1993: 453 (NA6 & NA8);
1994: 404 (NA8);
1995: 196 (NA8);
1996: 241 (NA8);
1997: 118 (NA8).
Of which in:
1990 300 were Neo Green & Tan LE;
1991 55 were Malibu Gold LE;
1993 100 were Classic Red & Tan LE;
1993 35 were Clubmans;
1994 144 were Clubmans;
1995 7 were Clubmans; &
1997 75 were Neo Green & Tan LE.
Re: FAQ: Clubman
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:13 pm
by 93_Clubman
Amended numbers for 1995 & 1997 - previous number for 1997 was number imported as opposed to sold.
Australian MX5 sales according to Mazda:
1989: 621 (NA6);
1990: 1446 (NA6);
1991: 746 (NA6);
1992: 502 (NA6);
1993: 453 (NA6 & NA8);
1994: 404 (NA8);
1995: 197 (NA8);
1996: 241 (NA8);
1997: 206 (NA8).
Total NA sales: 4816
Of which in:
1990 300 were Neo Green & Tan LE;
1991 55 were Malibu Gold LE;
1993 100 were Classic Red & Tan LE;
1993 35 were Clubmans;
1994 144 were Clubmans;
1995 7 were Clubmans; &
1997 75 were Neo Green & Tan LE.
Re: FAQ: Clubman
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:46 pm
by 93_Clubman
NA6, NA8, & NA8 Clubman all used the same spring - spring rate was 154/94 lbs/in.
Believe conversion is: 55.9 lbs/in = 1 kg/mm => 154/94 lbs/in = 2.8/1.7 kgs/mm.
Re: FAQ: Clubman
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:04 pm
by Veloce
QUOTE
You had three options when buying an MX5 between 1993 and 1996.
One was the regular model (std gearbox, std engine, std diff ratio, open diff, std suspension, & p/s).
Two was the Clubman (std gearbox, std engine, std diff ratio, TorSen diff, Bilstein dampers, thicker front anti-roll bar, & no p/s).
Three was the auto (auto gear box, derated engine [more low-down torque, less top end power], taller diff ratio, open diff, std suspension, & p/s).
UNQUOTE
The fourth option is the 100 red and tan LE's.
Cheers
Re: FAQ: Clubman
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:55 pm
by 93_Clubman
Veloce wrote:QUOTE
You had three options when buying an MX5 between 1993 and 1996.
One was the regular model (std gearbox, std engine, std diff ratio, open diff, std suspension, & p/s).
Two was the Clubman (std gearbox, std engine, std diff ratio, TorSen diff, Bilstein dampers, thicker front anti-roll bar, & no p/s).
Three was the auto (auto gear box, derated engine [more low-down torque, less top end power], taller diff ratio, open diff, std suspension, & p/s).
UNQUOTE
The fourth option is the 100 red and tan LE's.
The context is the MX5 Clubman, hence the title 'FAQ: Clubman'. The Clubman is an NA8, so this thread doesn't take into account the NA6. If it did then there would actually be a fifth option - that of the NA6 non-LE. NA8 (Clubman & non-Clubman) plated build dates commenced in Sep '93.
Re: FAQ: Clubman
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:45 pm
by 93_Clubman
93_Clubman wrote:Amended numbers for 1995 & 1997 - previous number for 1997 was number imported as opposed to sold.
Australian MX5 sales according to Mazda:
1989: 621 (NA6);
1990: 1446 (NA6);
1991: 746 (NA6);
1992: 502 (NA6);
1993: 453 (NA6 & NA8);
1994: 404 (NA8);
1995: 197 (NA8);
1996: 241 (NA8);
1997: 206 (NA8).
Total NA sales: 4816
Of which in:
1990 300 were Neo Green & Tan LE;
1991 55 were Malibu Gold LE;
1993 100 were Classic Red & Tan LE;
1993 35 were Clubmans;
1994 144 were Clubmans;
1995 7 were Clubmans; &
1997 75 were Neo Green & Tan LE.
MX5 sales in Australia - Anthony White.JPG
Re: FAQ: Clubman
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:42 pm
by Eeyore
Was the Clubman fitted with a particular gear knob to match the steering wheel? I'm trying to find an original one.
Re: FAQ: Clubman
Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:46 am
by 93_Clubman
Eeyore wrote:Was the Clubman fitted with a particular gear knob to match the steering wheel? I'm trying to find an original one.
The Clubman was fitted with a black leather Nardi gear knob, that matched the black leather Nardi steering wheel, the same as all other Australian Domestic Market 1993 to 1995 NA8s.
The known differences between the Clubman & the standard NA8 are:
Bilstein dampers; & Torsen 1 LSD; & 20mm front anti-roll bar (versus 19mm on standard NA8);
Clubman sticker on passenger side of boot lid; when still present the drivers side door jam vehicle information sticker indicating "Suspension: Bilstein", "Grade: --------", & "Special Edition:" left blank. It's believed the tie rod ends/ Pitman arms on the Clubman are also different to the standard NA8 to take into account the lower spring perch of the Bilstein dampers. Some Clubmans had hollow or semi hollow spoke NA8 rims fitted, while others had solid spoke NA8 rims. Some standard NA8s likewise had hollow or semi hollow spoke NA8 rims fitted, while others had solid spoke NA8 rims.
Re: FAQ: Clubman
Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:16 pm
by Eeyore
Thanks for the info sir. Ok well I need one of those gearknobs as someone seems to have replaced it with a MOMO item. If anyone could provide a picture I could ad it to my wanted ad in the trader section.
Re: FAQ: Clubman
Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 10:56 am
by 93_Clubman
Eeyore wrote:If anyone could provide a picture I could ad it to my wanted ad in the trader section.
There's a couple of pics at the top of this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=44&t=39902&p=515717&hilit=nardi+gear+knob#p515717
Re: FAQ: Clubman
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:03 pm
by 93_Clubman
Thanks to Guran, below are MX5 sales in Aust year by year to end 2011.
Separately, first half of 2012 reportedly saw 71 sales - second half 2012 sales: NFI.
Re: FAQ: Clubman
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:57 am
by 93_Clubman
93_Clubman wrote:The US R Package (the US equivalent of the Australian Clubman) had different tie rod ends fitted from the factory to take into account the lower spring perch of the Bilsteins. This seems likely to have translated to the Australian Clubman - for discussion see following:
viewtopic.php?f=30&t=43382It also possible that the original source for the pitman arm reference in the above FAQ was referring to tie rod ends, given the term is occasionally interchangeable in the US.
The US '93 LE like the US R Package had Bilsteins factory fitted, hence the different tie rod ends used:
http://www.miataroadster.com/mazda/mazd ... 12314.aspx"Part #: MZ-N021-32-280A-2
Product Description
Genuine Mazda factory parts.
These tie rod end ball joints originally came on the 1993 LE and 1994-1995 R package, but will fit any 1989-2005 Miata.
They have a different angle to account for a lowered stance and correct for increased “bump steer".
Installing these in place of the standard tie rod end ball joints will improve the steering feedback on any lowered NA or NB Miata.
We include new silver Zinc plated castle nuts, cotter pins, and jam nuts".
Re: FAQ: Clubman
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:56 am
by 93_Clubman
93_Clubman wrote:Thanks to Guran, below are MX5 sales in Aust year by year to end 2011.
2012: 159
2013: 178
Source:
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=60012&p=783338#p783338
Re: FAQ: Clubman
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:11 am
by malibu Q
93_Clubman wrote:The US Miata R Package was similar to the Clubman except for the addition of a boot lid spoiler, front & rear lower lip spoilers, & a 12mm rear anti-roll bar (versus 11mm on the Clubman).
It appears that the USDM Miata R Package cars may not have been fitted with a larger rear sway bar.
User 'Leafy' on CR checked Mazda Competition USA's parts listings and found that there's only one rear bar listed for all styles of NA.
There are two fronts listed, one has exclusive Bilstein in the description.
See posts #55 - #57 on this thread
http://clubroadster.net/vb_forum/38-roadster-special-limited-editions/17477-r-package-owners-unite-2.html
Re: FAQ: Clubman
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:49 am
by 93_Clubman
Tks - interesting. NA6 had a 12mm rear sway bar, while the NA8 had a 11mm. Indeed, I bought (& fitted) an NA6 12mm rear sway bar from Mr_Q on this forum who was parting out his old 1991 Neo Green LE NA6 after it was damaged back in 2006 & he bought the wreck:
viewtopic.php?f=44&t=18285I measured the two bars side by side back then & they were 11mm (NA8) & 12mm (NA6) & there is a slight difference to be noticed in driving in certain circumstances.
So I'm not sure why Mazda Comp only lists one size of rear sway bar for all NAs (as indicated at post # 57). Of course that said, it doesn't mean the US Miata R Package was definitely fitted with the 12mm bar. But it also doesn't mean it definitely wasn't (as per post # 58) due to their belief there was only one rear sway bar available.