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Re: NC: Who here is interested in a NC RHD Turbo Kit???

Postby NitroDann » Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:25 am

If you want to understand the potential, check this recent photo out..

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Re: NC: Who here is interested in a NC RHD Turbo Kit???

Postby trickytrev » Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:56 pm

I have a blower not your normal Mp62 blows nor normal engineer your normal boost I can say I don't get hosed of by family sedan in any way shape or form,LOL it scares the sh*t out of me took build little to far
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Re: NC: Who here is interested in a NC RHD Turbo Kit???

Postby david_syd_au » Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:26 pm

As a discussion starter, here is my list re adding a turbo to a my 2012 NC2 PRHT.

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- Produce at least 160 kW atw
- Boost is controlled to avoid damage or abnormal wear to engine internals and drivetrain, under normal road use
- Retain all current features, ie air-con, power-steer, ABS, traction & stability control
- Retain the stock ECU hardware
- Other than additional available performance, must drive and idle like stock, and not overheat in stop-start of highway situations.
- Be legal for registration and insurance in NSW
- Externally discrete installation (eg intercooler not obvious), and of course no "whoosh whoosh" noises!
- Job has a price limit, based on agreed assumptions of vehicle condition and parts & labour costs (eg engine internals are ok, turbo costs $x, manifold requires x hours to make). I must avoid blowouts due to unanticipated issues with fabrication or compliancing.

Desirable
- In-car power adjustment or tune switching

Bonus
- Additional EC functions, eg flat-shifting
- Boost display

It is likely you will have a different list, as we all want different things from our cars.
My NC is a daily driver for my wife and I and it has to be reliable and safe to drive for both of us in variable conditions. We don't need max power or want to drive like idiots, we have an MX-5 race car for that :-)
Anyway, this is my starting point.
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Re: NC: Who here is interested in a NC RHD Turbo Kit???

Postby NitroDann » Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:49 pm

david_syd_au wrote:As a discussion starter, here is my list re adding a turbo to a my 2012 NC2 PRHT.

Must
- Produce at least 160 kW atw

Easy

- Boost is controlled to avoid damage or abnormal wear to engine internals and drivetrain, under normal road use

Easy

- Retain all current features, ie air-con, power-steer, ABS, traction & stability control

MS3 plug and play runs all of that

- Retain the stock ECU hardware

If you mean sensors and alternator etc, yep that too

- Other than additional available performance, must drive and idle like stock, and not overheat in stop-start of highway situations.

It will certainly have a new personality, like how a V6 camry and a V6 commodore have a different personality, but it will be as good.

- Be legal for registration and insurance in NSW

Easy

- Externally discrete installation (eg intercooler not obvious), and of course no "whoosh whoosh" noises!

You will definately hear something, but keeping it sensible like an OEM turbo car is easy.

- Job has a price limit, based on agreed assumptions of vehicle condition and parts & labour costs (eg engine internals are ok, turbo costs $x, manifold requires x hours to make). I must avoid blowouts due to unanticipated issues with fabrication or compliancing.

Unavoidable in every last case, if it was found that your car needed maintenance then that work would need to be done and paid for. For example.


Desirable
- In-car power adjustment or tune switching

Completely useless, we are in the future now and the throttle is made for this job, but it can be added.

Bonus
- Additional EC functions, eg flat-shifting

If you want racecar stuff you can have it, all costs money though.

- Boost display

Fit any gauge you want after the build is done.

It is likely you will have a different list, as we all want different things from our cars.
My NC is a daily driver for my wife and I and it has to be reliable and safe to drive for both of us in variable conditions. We don't need max power or want to drive like idiots, we have an MX-5 race car for that :-)
Anyway, this is my starting point.


Yeah that's all doable. I won't turbo an NC1 though, without changing internals or using an NC2 bottom end/oem turbo block. Its a risk I am not getting involved with on the weaker NC1s.

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Re: NC: Who here is interested in a NC RHD Turbo Kit???

Postby NitroDann » Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:43 am

A bit of porn for NC guys.

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Re: NC: Who here is interested in a NC RHD Turbo Kit???

Postby david_syd_au » Tue Nov 27, 2018 3:54 pm

So much easier without the brake and steering components on the exhaust side of the engine :-(
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Postby NitroDann » Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:11 pm

Easier for me, no difference for you :P
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Re: NC: Who here is interested in a NC RHD Turbo Kit???

Postby bliu6757 » Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:31 pm

NitroDann wrote:Easier for me, no difference for you :P

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Re: NC: Who here is interested in a NC RHD Turbo Kit???

Postby rascal » Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:47 pm

Nice sequential box in that video....

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Re: NC: Who here is interested in a NC RHD Turbo Kit???

Postby Custardtart » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:17 am

This looks a good RHD kit and BBR have a solid reputation for quality.

https://www.mx5oc.co.uk/forum/yaf_posts ... stall.aspx
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Re: NC: Who here is interested in a NC RHD Turbo Kit???

Postby Snowmotion » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:27 am

Custardtart wrote:This looks a good RHD kit and BBR have a solid reputation for quality.

https://www.mx5oc.co.uk/forum/yaf_posts ... stall.aspx


Looks good but that is a lump of money.
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Re: NC: Who here is interested in a NC RHD Turbo Kit???

Postby Custardtart » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:44 am

Snowmotion wrote:
Custardtart wrote:This looks a good RHD kit and BBR have a solid reputation for quality.

https://www.mx5oc.co.uk/forum/yaf_posts ... stall.aspx


Looks good but that is a lump of money.

Yes, not cheap but then I don't think you can really expect to do a decent turbo install for less than $10k which is what it works out at when you factor exchange rate, shipping and duty.
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Re: NC: Who here is interested in a NC RHD Turbo Kit???

Postby Custardtart » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:47 am

The above kit in action.

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Re: NC: Who here is interested in a NC RHD Turbo Kit???

Postby NitroDann » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:35 am

I have a bbr stage2 nc at work.

Its pretty bloody average. Caught on fire first track day and leaked everywhere and everything.

Im 'finishing' it.

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Re: NC: Who here is interested in a NC RHD Turbo Kit???

Postby Luke » Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:01 am

NitroDann wrote:I have a bbr stage2 nc at work.

Its pretty bloody average. Caught on fire first track day and leaked everywhere and everything.

Im 'finishing' it.

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Make that 2 BBR NC kits of heard catching on fire!!!
At least one was on a dyno so easily caught, but the one on track was a bit more of a disaster.
Its the stupid Carbon Fibre Heat shield that light up. Just stick with nice metal head reflectors and shields.

I've had a look at both cars as well and I'm not impressed with the quality of fasteners, clamps etc used. All light weight flimsy crap.

Sorry but BBR on a NC is not that great just like Dann says.
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